************ Topic 24 Mon Jul 06, 1987 RUSSELLS5 (Forwarded) Sub: BobsTerm Pro 128 - Creating Macros Im trying to create a Macro from the phone menu with my usernameumber and password. It dials the number and transmits the usr number and password but does not log on to GEnie...just comes back with U#= 24 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 1 Mon Jul 06, 1987 RUSSELLS5 (Forwarded) I am trying to create a macro in the phone menu. It diealsals the number I then get to tone and it then transmits my uesernumber and passeordword but after thant I only bget the U#= agtaain to ehnter my number and password again. What am I doing wrong. Ive tried everything and am losing what little hair I have leve ft. :) ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 2 Mon Jul 06, 1987 JOEBROWN [Joe Brown] at 22:49 EDT What you should do is set up the macro to wait a second after you are connected, then have it transmit HHH, and them have the macro wait until it receives the string U#, THEN have it transmit your ID and password. It will work everytime. ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 3 Mon Jul 06, 1987 CHARRINGTON [Courtney] at 23:01 PDT Also, make sure all the "wait for string" and "transmit following string" marcos are correct. courtney ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 4 Tue Jul 07, 1987 DEB [*SysOp*] at 20:18 EDT and, are you making it as a MACRO or an AUTODIAL? Sure, by definition its a macro, but they are not handled the same on the phone list/logins. Hey, we could make one and upload it if you've followed these steps and still need help. *deb!* ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 5 Tue Jul 07, 1987 RUSSELLS5 at 21:12 PDT Guess what guys, it DOES not work for me. Here is what I am doing so you can tell me what I am doing wrong. Boot up program. select auto mode from the main options menu select phone book for the auto menu select edit entry from the phone book menu it asks for file name and i type in Genie (my filename) then asks for tiele which i then again reply Genie hethen asks for the phone number and I type in the phone # it then asks for the macro and here is where the trouble starts: two asterists for a one second delay cntl THHHcntl T----strike that cntlTHHHcntlMcntlTcntlSuser#,passwordcntlMcntlT It all looks good to me....what am I doing wrong? ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 6 Wed Jul 08, 1987 MICHAEL.M [-:SysOp:-] at 02:08 EDT Here is the first portion of the autodial macro I use for BTPro-128 and GEnie. Others might use something different, but this works for me. Also, I use two carriage returns instead of the HHH. You may substitute if needed.... **^m^m^kE^sU#=^s^tID#,PASSWORD^t^m I've used the ^ symbol in place of CNTRL. Here is a description of what it is doing: Two asterisks (wait), two carriage returns (get GEnies attention), CNTRL-K (Comm-Key Prefix), the letter E (in conjunction with the previous CNTRL-K will turn on ECHO), CNTRL-S (wait for the enclosed string), U#= (the enclosed string you are waiting for), CNTRL-S (second half of the wait command which encloses the string), CNTRL-T (send the enclosed string), ID#,PASSWORD (the enclosed string you are sending), CNTRL-T (second half of the send command for the enclosed string), CNTRL-M (a carriage return which sends out the ID# and Password). Let me know if you have any problems using/understanding the above. -Mike ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 7 Wed Jul 08, 1987 DEB [*SysOp*] at 04:31 EDT If you are using 300 baud, replace Mike's two carriage returns with the three H's. You might also place a small delay between each H: **^th^t*^th^t*^th^t ^w=^tID#,PASSWORD^m^t^w?^tcbm^m^t Remember that every time you want to SEND something, it must be withint the CTRL T's...use them like quotes. If you want it with a return,too, don't forget to add the CTRL M before you press the second of the CTRL T pairs. Mike has a great idea there for logons, rather than save local echo in your parameters, in case someone is looking over your shoulder, just have BTPro begin at full duplex, normal, and use a ComKey E after you send your password as Mike explained and you'll never see the password, it will be transmitted correctly, and you'll still end up with local echo on! *deb!* ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 8 Wed Jul 08, 1987 RUSSELLS5 at 19:12 PDT Well, it still does not work for me. Mike, I used the EXACT same thing that you did, character for character and still does not work. I even gtried putting HHH in the beginning after the delays and THAT does not work either. I am using a 1670 at 1200 baud. I am just running the darn thing straight from boot and not changing anything. when it asks if I need to change parameters i reply NO. Again, all I am getting is, it looks like it transmits the id# and password then waits a second and then comes back with the IU#=U#= again. Appreciate the help thus far and will ctry other things and wait for your reply again tomorrow. By the way DEB, I like the NEW look!!! ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 9 Thu Jul 09, 1987 MICHAEL.M [-:SysOp:-] at 00:10 EDT Recheck the macro. If it still does not work, try downloading the Macro which deb just uploaded to the library. If *that* doesnt work, you will apparently need to do some parameter setting. Hmmm...I just thought of something. If you get the U#= without any message attached to it, then it isnt recieving a password/id at all. More like a few 's. Maybe you do not need any of the delays in the beginning at all. Try it without them. You might want to also set up the CHAR DELAY in the PARAMETERS - XFER section for 2 or 3. (You can always change it later, if too slow) If all else fails, a bit of Baud Rate Factor adjustment might be necessary and you can find HELP on doing this in our new Members Survival Kit right on the main *FlagShip* menu. Keep us abreast of your situation. ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 10 Thu Jul 09, 1987 MICHAEL.M [-:SysOp:-] at 20:26 EDT Russell - Just thought of something else....are you ensuring that the U#= in your macro is in UPPERCASE? ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 11 Thu Jul 09, 1987 RUSSELLS5 at 21:01 PDT Guess what Deb and Michael? ITWORKS!!!! As it turns out there was nothing wrong with my macro at all! I checked some of the other parameters and found that I had it set on 7 data bits instead of 8 data bits. I also found that I have it set on full duplex instead of half duplex. Michael, I used ur macro and these changes and it works like a charm :). Thanks very much. ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 12 Fri Jul 10, 1987 MICHAEL.M [-:SysOp:-] at 00:29 EDT Russell - Bravo! Good work. (By the way, I always use 8 bits, full duplex, and local echo). Glad you've got the problem solved! ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 13 Sun Mar 13, 1988 W.ROBERSON at 17:22 EST I am trying to create my GEnie log-on phone macro. I have read these messages but have not been able to make the auto connection. My phone macro is: ^ke**^thhh^t^sU#=^s**^tIDnumber,password^t I am set to 8n1 - 1200 baud - lo set to 70 - hi set to 1 - 0 nulls - no line delay - no character delay. When I try to auto log-on I get a srting of '''''''''''''['''''' or something that looks like that. If I don't get that sequence, I get knocked out of the macro (the macro quits flashing) and I am left with the U#= prompt. I know my phone line is noisey but that does not seem to be the problem since I can get on manually. Can anyone help? Bill ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 14 Sun Mar 13, 1988 F.MORRIS [ Fred. ] at 17:43 EST I had those problems too! First, according to GEnie, you only need the HHH if you are using 300 baud. My macro now looks something like: ^W = * ^T ID,PASSWORD ^M ^T ^K E The C= E is after the signon in case you are not alone. This is covered much deeper in TOP 3, starting about message fifty something..... Good luck. Once set, the macros can doo all sorts of neat things. Mine now sign-on, BRO four different Round Tables (some all CAT, some SET CAT) in the buffer, and puts a customized newspaper on disk each A.M. and signs off, all untoutched by human hands! Fred. ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 15 Sun Mar 13, 1988 W.ROBERSON at 22:43 EST Fred Thanks for the info. I just logged on using the macro in your message. It worked just fine. Now I will start adding to it to make it move me where I want to go. Again thanks. Bill ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 16 Mon Mar 21, 1988 DEB [*SysOp*] at 14:01 EST I still heartily suggest use of *1* as a character delay in BTPro for anywhere. Some BBS's just cannot keep up with a full 1200 baud blast, and if your phone line's touchy, it might garble up easier before it gets to the GEnie phone! *deb!* ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 17 Mon Mar 21, 1988 KEVIN-S. [ KeS ] at 20:33 PST By the way, if you ever move up to 2400 baud, you will need the "HHH" again. Stymied me for the worse part of an evening, I thought the modem was bonkers. KeS ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 18 Thu Mar 24, 1988 D.HYTE at 22:25 EST Kevin, I am at 2400 and suffer no probs w/macros i've written and such...what is this HHH you alude to? Dave (.)(.) ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 19 Fri Mar 25, 1988 WC.COLEMAN [Geos*Sysop] at 03:11 EST When logging on to GEnie at 300 or 2400 (but not 1200) you ***MUST*** type 'HHH' after making connection so that GEnie's terminal equipment can tell what speed you are sending at (it defaults to 1200, that's why you don't need to do it at that speed). If possible put a small (1/4 second) delay in between each H. -WC ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 20 Fri Mar 25, 1988 DEB [*SysOp*] at 14:34 EST Dave: you get a GEnie 2400 baud connection *without* an HHH ?! ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 21 Sat Mar 26, 1988 D.HYTE at 20:19 EST Deb: * ;-) * nope....I run 1200 into here being as I get hit with the surchg and there is a 2400 in Raleigh (toll to me but no surchg) so I did the calcs to see which fairs better and the 1200 here even with the sur is cheaper (not much but $$ is $$ eh?)...they are gettin ready tp to open up the local area toll free in the next yr so then I'll be hitting the 2400 as a local. Tks for the info tho...will squirrel it away tho till I need it... Dave (.)(.) ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 22 Mon Mar 28, 1988 DEB [*SysOp*] at 16:54 EST Dave: yup, with the 2400 baud there is still a surcharge-if you'd like to see that change, let GEnie FEEDBACK know. (smile) ------------ Category 15, Topic 24 Message 23 Wed Mar 30, 1988 D.HYTE at 21:51 EST Thanks Deb....excellent idea....although I am not one to normally hold back on comments (as you know [grin]), I think I will again just to let them know I am serious/still interested and all. I would love 2400 in here for file xfers alone...doesn't much matter for text being as this beast (whatEVER it is) is obviously multitasking it's little chips off and prob still wouldn't run off the screen appreciably faster when the system is loaded down by us....for throughput alone tho, an incentive would be in order to run faster eh? shorter connect times, more users per avail resources, plenty of advantages! anyway...be chattin ya up later! . Dave (.)(.)